Historical Punishment: School Inspectors Instructed
Posted by Haron on 18 Jan 2008 at 08:17 am | Tagged as: Startles
The next entry in the series comes from “Drury’s Manual of Education”, published in 1903.
In turn, it quotes the “Circular No. 212 issued to H.M. Inspectors in 1882″, which states in relation to corporal punishment in schools that:
The subject is one on which your own observation is necessarily incomplete, since children are not likely to be punished in your presence on the day of inspection. But you will not fail, in your intercourse with teachers and managers, to impress on them that the more thoroughly a teacher is qualified for his position, by skill, character and personal influence, the less necessary it is for him to resort to corporal chastisement at all.
When, however, the necessity arises, the punishment should be administered by the Head Teacher and an entry of the fact should in their Lordships’ opinion be made in the Log Book.
Hey, I like the idea that the better the teacher, the less likely he’ll be to cane the pupils. I should remember to tell Abel. I’m sure he’ll want to be considered the best teacher, ever.
In the Revised Instructions for 1902, further reference is made to the subject:
The infliction of punishment is to some extent a confession of defeat by the authority that inflicts it.
Oh, dear. Abel, I hope you’re listening. A hundred years ago they were already onto you.
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Yes indeed. For all that talk of him wanting the girl to be ‘good’, he’d be up a creek without a paddle if behaviour was beyond rapproach, wouldn’t he! Rather like my husband, I have to say. He blithers on about my behaviour being “unacceptable” but I find that there’s a certain part of the anatomy that always seem to rise to the occasion nonetheless!!!
Wow… gutsy… you are SO in for it.
I have always thought that there must be some truth behind that - physical ‘violence’ is kind of a last resort, isn’t it? By using it, you basically admit that you don’t have any other way of making someone listen to what you’re saying. I’m sure Abel would disagree, though. I wonder what it would take to make him see the point…
It’s a really good physcological tact to try and get out of a punishment though, Kate. We used to do the same thing when teachers threatend to call your parents, the whole “Oh so you can’t handle me, then.” Thing. Often worked acutally!
I don’t see a happy ending to this conversation. Think about it. Is a spanking for doing something horrible the worst possible punishment? Those guys who felt they had failed if corporal punishment became necessary were devoted to changing behaviour in other devious ways, none of which were all that comfortable for the miscreant….
Well, I can’t help wondering about the inspectors’ intercourse with teachers and managers…
Heh. I think Haron has a point. I may have to post this to my own blog. In fact, I think every girl I know should get a copy - to do with as they think best. For example, posting it on the bathroom mirror ought to work quite well, no?
WOW you guys are brave!!
I’m very interested to see that Abel hasn’t commented yet, too…
I know we’ve all already thought this but I feel compelled to point out a fundamental, important difference: those children would not have consented to being punished in that way, whereas we do (well, I’m assuming most of us do, certainly I know that some of the commenters do!). In which case, surely pointing at articles such as these is poor support for The Cause - there are fundamental differences between the two populations, which invalidates the generalisability of the findings. And so one finds one has actually undermined one’s own position.
Also, I think you were all just asking for a spanking
Well duh… Abel hasn’t commented cos he knows Haron’s right. Again. It must be a hard life for him, really. Poor little man.
Heh… Haron’s right… Abel’s scared, we all cyber-provoke Abel, safe in the knowledge that they ain’t nothing he can do about it.
I’m guessing thats kind of the divide ordering of the spanko universe.
…Or maybe I was posted this the day I did because Abel is away for work somewhere he doesn’t have ready Internet access.
Naughty Haron! Doesn’t Abel get comment notification, though??
SD: Well he’ll get comment notification eventually…that’s why we all keep checking in…
SD, he only gets notified about comments on *his* posts. Isn’t that convenient?
Soooo all it would take would be someone commenting on one of his posts with a link to this entry?
Mind you, if he hasn’t scrolled down the main page of the blog yet and been curious about all the comments this post has attracted, maybe we shouldn’t help him!!
It’s also very convenient that he’s off-line while away this time
Abel is now online.
And a number of girls are in *serious* trouble.
Unfortunately for Haron, she’s the only one in easy reach, so I shall have to let her take the necessary whackings on behalf of each offender. The whipping girl concept has reached the internet age at last…
- Terminated -
You’re on line but are you on site?
..not that *I* was one of the offenders..as I recall I was trying to restore order…so nothing to be received on my account…
You would not *believe* how wide my gleeful grin was, reading Abel’s comment! The solidarity of fellow-spankees is one thing, but I do *love* watching other people being in trouble when I’m not…
(However I shall now take my gloating somewhere else before the tables are turned!)
Ah! But I have the ‘get out of a spanking free’ card for Haron!!
Pay attention Abel!!
When I was younger and greener (about a year ago) you said something similar, that Haron would get my spanking, and I took you seriously, and expressed my outrage. You assured me that you would never do that because
1) it wouldn’t be fair and you be believed in
fairness
and
2) you wouldn’t spank one girl for the behaviour of
another unless it was agreed in advance.
So unless Haron *wants* to take a spanking for the copious disrespectful comments (what were you thinking girls??) then she’s home free!!
Ta dah!!