Comments on: On the breaking of canes http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/ Abel's spanking blog & stories Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:43:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Abel http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-90691 Abel Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:18:14 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-90691 ROFL Drifter - thank you, thank you, thank you. I shall make use of your scientific approach whenever I break implements in future! ROFL Drifter – thank you, thank you, thank you. I shall make use of your scientific approach whenever I break implements in future!

]]> By: Drifter http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-90621 Drifter Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:58:12 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-90621 From a physics perspective, if so much energy is going into deforming the wood and breaking the cane, not much of it is going into her. So, it might have struck her, but I don't think it counts, just because it was not "of the best" and really wasn't a "stroke." More like a tap. From a physics perspective, if so much energy is going into deforming the wood and breaking the cane, not much of it is going into her.

So, it might have struck her, but I don’t think it counts, just because it was not “of the best” and really wasn’t a “stroke.” More like a tap.

]]> By: Rich http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87955 Rich Wed, 21 May 2008 06:50:51 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87955 From my point of view, a stroke means striking the body with the cane, so if the break occurs once contact is made then it counts as a stroke. "On the fourth stroke the cane breaks" means there was a stroke and it counts. I would not correct her counting. However, if it's really going to take six good, hard strokes to get her to repent, then it doesn't matter how many strokes were declared. The point of punishment is to get a change of behavior. That's entirely the responsibility of the person giving the punishment, and it's up to that person to decide if the culprit has gotten enough punishment. He may very well decide that six was not enough. In which case, he should say, "That wasn't enough, I'm afraid. How many more will it take for you to learn your lesson?" Then there's a fraught silence and, usually, a meek reply of the sort, "That would be for you to say, sir!" After that, he'll need to make his own assessment and proceed as necessary for the best interest of his charge. But then, I'm a particular terror when it comes to discipline. YMMV. From my point of view, a stroke means striking the body with the cane, so if the break occurs once contact is made then it counts as a stroke. “On the fourth stroke the cane breaks” means there was a stroke and it counts. I would not correct her counting.

However, if it’s really going to take six good, hard strokes to get her to repent, then it doesn’t matter how many strokes were declared. The point of punishment is to get a change of behavior. That’s entirely the responsibility of the person giving the punishment, and it’s up to that person to decide if the culprit has gotten enough punishment. He may very well decide that six was not enough. In which case, he should say, “That wasn’t enough, I’m afraid. How many more will it take for you to learn your lesson?”

Then there’s a fraught silence and, usually, a meek reply of the sort, “That would be for you to say, sir!”

After that, he’ll need to make his own assessment and proceed as necessary for the best interest of his charge.

But then, I’m a particular terror when it comes to discipline. YMMV.

]]> By: Kate http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87716 Kate Mon, 19 May 2008 21:05:16 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87716 You know, I just thought of something. Maybe I should go for option b after all, because if the stroke isn't repeated and hurt less than the others, wouldn't she try to deliberately make the headmaster break the cane the next time she'd be called in for a caning? And that would just be a waste of rattan, don't you think? OMG. It seems I've gone over to the dark side. You know, I just thought of something. Maybe I should go for option b after all, because if the stroke isn’t repeated and hurt less than the others, wouldn’t she try to deliberately make the headmaster break the cane the next time she’d be called in for a caning? And that would just be a waste of rattan, don’t you think?

OMG. It seems I’ve gone over to the dark side.

]]> By: sirstephen9 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87663 sirstephen9 Mon, 19 May 2008 11:03:19 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87663 It all demonstrates the value of sound ritual. My preference would always be for the cane or whip to be presented to the recipient of punishment to be kissed, before she provides the stroke count, and the obligatory thanks. This puts the power where it should be - with the dominant, who can choose to present the broken cane, and hence to have the stroke counted, or simply fetch a replacement, and apply the stroke properly. If after that the count is incorrect, or there is argument, then further punishment should apply - from a telling off, through extra strokes, to a complete re-start, as desired. I find this works well with stiffer implements, but is messy and time-consuming with a belt. So I do the counts for those. The pause for the kiss allows you to see where you've been better - always a bonus. As for caning the girl who made the defective cane........ well, we can imagine the discussions in quality control on that one ! It all demonstrates the value of sound ritual. My preference would always be for the cane or whip to be presented to the recipient of punishment to be kissed, before she provides the stroke count, and the obligatory thanks. This puts the power where it should be – with the dominant, who can choose to present the broken cane, and hence to have the stroke counted, or simply fetch a replacement, and apply the stroke properly. If after that the count is incorrect, or there is argument, then further punishment should apply – from a telling off, through extra strokes, to a complete re-start, as desired.
I find this works well with stiffer implements, but is messy and time-consuming with a belt. So I do the counts for those. The pause for the kiss allows you to see where you’ve been better – always a bonus.
As for caning the girl who made the defective cane…….. well, we can imagine the discussions in quality control on that one !

]]> By: Evie http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87532 Evie Sun, 18 May 2008 21:34:42 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87532 Yeah sure, we belive you Abel!!! Yeah sure, we belive you Abel!!!

]]> By: Abel http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87511 Abel Sun, 18 May 2008 15:36:17 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87511 Eliane: what a disgraceful slander on headmasters everywhere!!! (LOL and I can honestly assure you that I hadn't done anything to damage the three canes I broke recently before using them!) Eliane: what a disgraceful slander on headmasters everywhere!!! (LOL and I can honestly assure you that I hadn’t done anything to damage the three canes I broke recently before using them!)

]]> By: Sarah http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87457 Sarah Sun, 18 May 2008 09:52:49 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87457 Indiana - For a none switch I must admit to having some very switchy thoughts at times. Never say never :) Zille - I definitely echo Abel's best wishes to you and your Master x x Indiana – For a none switch I must admit to having some very switchy thoughts at times. Never say never :)

Zille – I definitely echo Abel’s best wishes to you and your Master x x

]]> By: Eliane http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87456 Eliane Sun, 18 May 2008 09:08:13 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87456 I suspect the headmaster of having deliberately broken the cane so that he can blame the girl and give the punishment all over again... crafty people, headmasters. I suspect the headmaster of having deliberately broken the cane so that he can blame the girl and give the punishment all over again… crafty people, headmasters.

]]> By: sclurker http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/comment-page-1/#comment-87407 sclurker Sun, 18 May 2008 02:52:21 +0000 http://www.spankingwriters.com/blog/2008/05/17/on-the-breaking-of-canes/#comment-87407 I don't see how the factory workers or the harvesters can be punished. It passed their respective company's quality control inspections. The fault lies with the person who selected it as suitable (durable enough) for the punishment. Therefore, Kate is quite correct. I don’t see how the factory workers or the harvesters can be punished. It passed their respective company’s quality control inspections. The fault lies with the person who selected it as suitable (durable enough) for the punishment. Therefore, Kate is quite correct.

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